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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 14, 2012 9:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

Will Bobby and Phil be singing the National Anthem again this year during one of the playoff home games in SF?

Major League Baseball's copyright lawyers are saying to Deadheads right now, "Blow Me on YouTube: blow me regarding your favorite pastime, blow me regarding your favorite band, and blow me regarding your national anthem!"

WtF!? Two years ago we had the National League championship playoffs between Philadelphia and San Francisco. The boys belted out the national anthem for Game 5 during a playoff home game on Oct 21, 2010. That's when Phil does a controversial fist-pump as they sing the "land-of-the-free" phrase. The video clip of this on YouTube has been pulled down because it "contains content from MLB Advanced Media, who has blocked it in your country [U.S.A.] on copyright grounds." Not being a lawyer or copyright tech, in my village-idiot opinion, I think YouTube and its owner, Google, are butt-wipes for doing this, and they deserve to be told, Blow Me!.

Regardless of how people felt about Phil's fist-pump, it came from his gut and that's good enough for me. I loved going to GD shows in 1973. I loved playing baseball when I was a kid. I played second base in Little League for five years, plus I was a pitcher during my fifth year. Here is a photo of me with two Little League friends. Seeing and hearing them sing the anthem that day was inspirational to me. America needs all the inspiration it can get these days.

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Poster: scotch_glass Date: Oct 15, 2012 5:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

They probably pulled this because it was from a copywrited broadcast as all MLB games are, including the national anthem and any pregame footage. The fist pump was not "censored" it was simply covered up by the logo that is always atop the tv screen during games. Surely they would not be against this spontaneous act of emotion while stations continually broadcast offensive butcherings of our country's anthem such as Queen Latifah and many other "artists" that are asked to provide their own rendition for whatever reason that may be.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 16, 2012 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

Agreed. The anthem should be done straight up, without "interpretation", unless you're Hendrix. Is there any version more egregiously wrong than this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c


not funny.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 16, 2012 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

I do not disagree with the facts of the matter or the comments about how the anthem is being sung. I have confessed to blowing off some steam. Here's a few more facts that matter to me.

Major League Baseball is a legal monopoly that the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld several times. Since the 1990s, the building of new sports stadiums has increasingly relied on taxpayer funds. These tax subsidies are coming from local communities. It has increased from just a few million dollars in tax exemptions per stadium to the "corporate welfare" system we have today, in the hundreds of millions of dollars per stadium. Team owners now effectively hold cities and states under siege by threatening to move their teams, creating bidding wars to get as much government money as possible.

All U.S. Taxpayers pay enormous subsidies to MLB team owners. This happens during flyovers at MLB games whenever they're using military aircraft, flown by military pilots, maintained by military personnel, all paid for by U.S. Taxpayers.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

Hey, Tex,
I agree with this statement:

"Since the 1990s, the building of new sports stadiums has increasingly relied on taxpayer funds. These tax subsidies are coming from local communities. It has increased from just a few million dollars in tax exemptions per stadium to the "corporate welfare" system we have today, in the hundreds of millions of dollars per stadium. Team owners now effectively hold cities and states under siege by threatening to move their teams, creating bidding wars to get as much government money as possible."

From what I have read in the business press, when looking at just the numbers, most of these stadium deals do turn out POORLY for the cities. I would be curious if anyone knows of a city where this was not true.

On the other hand, I think there are some intagibles associated with having a team in your city/state, (or, in the case of the NFL and NY, having people believe that certain team are from your area even if they actually share a stadium in another state.) Why does the Angels baseball team want to be from L.A. but the Texans football team doesn't want to be from Houston?



I disagree with your next statement, Pardner:

"All U.S. Taxpayers pay enormous subsidies to MLB team owners. This happens during flyovers at MLB games whenever they're using military aircraft, flown by military pilots, maintained by military personnel, all paid for by U.S. Taxpayers. "

I think fly-overs are marketing efforts for the Armed Forces. Do you think they are going to show video clips on the Jumbotron(c) of bored soldiers eating MREs and scrounging for wipies in the desert while being shelled? Hell, no. Jets are sexy and airborne personnel landing in the middle of the field are even sexier.
Personally, I don't think many people get a pilot's license that didn't dream of flying as a kid.

As the twig is bent, so grows the tree,
Judge TOOTMO

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Oct 15, 2012 7:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

"Will Bobby and Phil be singing the National Anthem again this year during one of the playoff home games in SF?"

Yes they did this evening and when the final chorus "and the land of the freeeee" Phil raised his arm up loud and proud sans an extended middle finger.



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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Oct 15, 2012 6:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

You can't say "blow me" without the express written consent of Ducats.

Anybody else tired of seeing Craig Sager and his awful attire? Every time I see him I think I'm having a flashback to 1978 and Bucky Dent is about to hit that home run again.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 16, 2012 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

I sincerely apologize to Ducats for once again infringing on, and copying, his wonderful "blow me" line. Sue me!

Our country is very stressed out right now, and I'm just blowing off some steam. I was trying to be patriotic for a moment. Sorry about that. This is something that doesn't come easy for me anymore.

Today I heard that Phil and Bob sang it again last night. I missed it. Will I ever get to see and hear it? Shame on me for asking about our National Anthem. I guess I'll tell myself to Blow Me!

Tim Flannery displays the SYF logo with "Giants" on it for this National Anthem
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Blow me YouTube, Google, MLB, and their moron copyright-techs for being such hardcore butt-wipes. Look at how these idiots missed pulling down Phil Lesh and Bob Weir singing the National Anthem at the Giants game on Aug 10, 2010.

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Oct 15, 2012 9:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: bummer: Phil Lesh fist-pump gets censored by Major League Baseball

Why would the fist pump be controversial? The only controversy i see is Phil looking like a Walking Dead zombie in the picture you linked.